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Home Bible Prophecy Thoughts on US Economic Crisis Sept 20 2008

Thoughts on US Economic Crisis Sept 20 2008

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Update...USA Economic Crisis NOT the End but an Emergence of a Global Beast...Sept 20
I am continuously amazed at the panic, paranoia, and fear in Christian circles, especially Bible Prophecy Students who depend on Wall Street and its Stock Market to determine Bible Prophecy. While it is not an evil thing to watch the Markets on Wall Street, we should pay much serious attention to what The Bible has to say insofar as these hard economic times go.  Now, if your eschatology is based on Wall Street, then on Monday, you would say, it is  the end of the world as stocks collapsed and by Friday, you would think that differently as stocks went up in record highs... So, I don't believe in 'Stock Market Bible Prophecy'...Those who heavily really on such to see the future are only looking to the surface of things. 
 
There are a number of things happening that we must watch out for, and that is more government control and oversight. What capitalism has done is to hand over all your rights and freedoms to  government after raping and abusing them. Now Government says you have no brains to manage your own affairs and therefore, they will help you out by first bailing out your employers and  then buying all your debt....is any one out there paying attention????
 
 
We all remember September 11 2001, what happened, people cried out to Government to BAIL THEM OUT in regards to 'Protection' and what we got was Patriot Act and more refined Patriot Acts...spying and no more privacy.... Big Brother emerged to such scales as never before in USA and global history.... The US exported the Idea of  War on Terror to almost all nations that even poor Nations like Uganda have 'Terror Watch Programs', wholly funded by the US government in the fight against Terror...the purpose of these entities is to spy on citizens to make sure that no one posses a threat to US Hegemonic interests.... After 9/11 people screamed "More Government Control", "Protect us", "Security, security"... Little did people realize that this was a surrender in series of all their rights to a Global Super Power... People would make silly remarks like " I don't care about all the security we go through at the airports, as long as I am safe and government protects me"...
 
 
Now we have had a major US global financial crisis and the Powers that be are using this situation as a 'God Sent' and foolish and stupid people are again crying for more Government control and oversight in the financial sector.... There is an old Ugandan Proverb that speaks of a Man who went to cut down a tree only to find that strong winds had thrown it down... Now that is what is happening... The current US financial Crisis is a means to hand over Financial instruments in series to more Government control... The buzz word that we have heard throughout this week has been, Regulation, Regulation, stronger Government Regulation...blah blah Blah Regulation...
 
 
On Wall Street Stocks went high as Government "Heard the cries of the people" and "responded" by BUYING ALL BAD DEBT that these GLOBAL corporations own... The Government now has 80 per cent shares in GLOBAL AIG... If you own a Bad Debt on a house, then Government essentially bought you!  Remember, these corporations being BAILED out are GLOBAL entities with GLOBAL investments...
 
 
 A Chinese Newspaper commented for need of a 'New Financial Order'...Remember that the US Government has borrowed billions from China and other nations to finance its war in Iraq, thanks to G W Bush and his surrogates... Interestingly enough, other nations are happy at The US promising stronger regulation in the Financial Markets...and are following suit, promising to help 'chip in' into their financial markets...
 
 
What we see is that the current economic crisis in the US is not the end of US economic Hegemony but an emergence of a Global Beast together with all other Nations that will makeup the Coalition of the Willing in fight against Global Financial Meltdowns as we have seen this week.  The Chinese will have their prayers answered for a 'New Global Financial Order' unfortunately, it will be led by the US as of now... She is the "Beauty that rides the Beast"... The Whore that rides the Beast in Revelation 17 sounds familiar????
 
 
However, what does that mean for the US folks, your incomes and expenditures will be greatly reduced... More Wars will ensue... What Uncle Sam Gives, He Taketh Away... Your debt might be paid off by joining the Military and fighting wars in Afghanistan and or some '...stan' nation...then Government will payoff your house if you don't return back in a plastic bag...
 
 
So, the US is not done yet...her Hegemony is still growing, only this time that it is ushering in a new era of  Global Governance...  It is this reason that the world is awaiting an Obama administration... His visit to Germany underscored that point...they want a leader who will usher in a new era of Global Governance and surely Obama has the appeal globally and not McCain and His flamboyant Evangelical Palin... The Beauty has to Ride the Beast...
 
 
....More, 2'morrow...
Kato M...
 
 
 
Update...More in response to emails about the current economic crisis in the USA...Sept 18
I believe that The Lord will continue to Judge wickedness among the Nations and with special focus on America. However, if America is Babylon as in Revelation 18, then her Judgments seem to happen in one day, in one hour....a similar verse in Jeremiah 50, 51... It seems like The Lord judges Babylon differently from other Nations and does it in His own time...
 
Yes,  I believe in Revelation 17:16 that Babylon gets her flesh torn and then burnt...however, this does not spell any time period.... So, that argument that there is a period between her flesh being torn and burnt is repetitive...and begs for more answers and speculation....and I agree to a point but I leave it to be speculative... Yes, the Ten Kings could very well eat her flesh, and burn her with fire in one day - one hour... So, the Bible does not give us any fixed time period between when the Ten Kings eat her flesh and burn her with fire...it could all happen at the same time... However, I leave room for speculation...and speculation at that...
 
About Fleeing, my position is that you seek The Lord's Will and be led of The Holy Spirit as to where to be and do The Lord's will...
 
So, those who advocate fleeing, tell us , where will you go? To Canada??? One guy left with a group up there and the results were bad...what do you do with Canada joining the American Union? Flee to Mexico?, Flee to Georgia? Russia will be waiting for you there... Where in the world will you flee to? Maybe Somalia...oh, it is too painful and poor there....maybe Uganda...the USA has strong presence there, AIG, CITI Group, all have powerful investment arms there... They are planning the 'Africa Command'...a super US military base in Africa...it could be in Uganda or Nigeria... Uganda is also a US Client State... One individual was encouraging a Christian Exodus... Let me warn you that you need to be careful of such folks...flee from them instead... One individual advocated divorcing or separating from your wife if need be so as to flee USA Babylon... Another individual claims that American Christians cannot be saved unless they Flee Babylon... Brethren, lets not be foolish and become stupid by acting on the PARANOIA of some who call their fear of the future Bible Prophecy...
 
By the way, if you are planning to flee, Tomorrow maybe TO LATE, suppose Babylon is destroyed on Friday yet you plan on Fleeing on Wednesday the following week?
 
What about the POOR CHRISTIANS who cannot afford to flee even New York to get to another State? I know many many Christians in America and they are poor, yet they love Jesus Christ and are faithful to Him. How will they flee if they cannot even afford an air ticket to Canada????
This fleeing seems tailored only to the wealthy Christians who can afford it....
 
Let us not take a single verse in Revelation 18:4 out of context with all other verses in The Bible...Those who are Children of God are led by The Holy Spirit... The Lord will lead and protect His own just like He did to His people in Egypt, delivered Daniel and His Three Friends from Fire and Lions, Lot out of Sodom etc...
 
My position and opinion is that we should trust in The Lord's providence and Protection and also it will TAKE THE HAND OF GOD AND WORKING OF GOD to protect and keep His people in places of safety...
 
Lastly, this is what is coming to Christians in AMERICA --- PERSECUTION...and better be prepared for that...they will deliver you up in Churches and you will be hated by all men for my Name Sake...
 
Yes, The Lord's judgments are coming and are to increase in intensity upon the Nations but LET US NOT BE REACTIVE Christians but RESPONSIVE, SOBER, and  with a SOUND MIND...
 
Also many Bible Prophecy Students have become TOO SELFISH that they only think about their welfare...about fleeing...so as to avoid pain...this is nothing but escapism... Why don't we think about other Christians suffering right now in America instead of just running away???  Hurricane Gustav destroyed many people's properties, so did Ike, yet these Christians only seek to run away  not even considering the fact that many Christians lost property down in Texas because of Ike...lets stop this 'flee' foolishness and stupidity!
 
Why not consider helping the poor Christians in Texas and maybe... I ask, what have you done to help those who cannot' flee' USA??? You are only considering you and your welfare but millions of poor Christians in the USA are not your concern... I tell you, be very careful, you might end up falling prey to some Jim Jones out there!!!
 
....more 2'morrow...
Kato M
 
Update...Is Current Economic Shake up in USA Babylon the End? I don't Think so...Sept 17
In response to some emails, I strongly believe that if the USA is Babylon spoken of in Revelation 18, then she certainly comes down at the HEIGHT of HER ECONOMIC Power...not when when she gets economic meltdowns... 
Revelation 18:11
(11) And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:

Revelation 18:15-19
(15) The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,
(16) And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!
(17) For in one hour so great riches is come to naught. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,
(18) And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!
(19) And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas, that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.
Any Bible prophecy student can read Revelation 18 and see clearly the ECONOMIC Descriptions of Babylon at her destruction, she is mighty, wealthy, merchants with ships at sea feed her indulgence, she is a super power and  merchants weep when all her wealth is destroyed in ONE HOUR...so the talk in Bible Prophecy circles that this economic down turn spells the end of Babylon is laughable, if one seriously looks at Revelation 18.
 
I tell you what, be very very scared when this current economic crisis is done away with and the American economy booms again to levels never seen before...that is when destruction comes, and in one hour...when they least expect it...when they say peace, peace, then sudden destruction -- in one hour!
 
The Biblical trends of the fall of global empires is very similar...Egypt was judged by The Lord at the HEIGHT of her Power and not when she faced famine during the Joseph time... Babylon fell at the Height of her Power, King Nebuchadnezzar lost his mind at The HEIGHT of his Power when all was well...King Herod was slain by an Angel at the Height of his power when he stood up and people worshiped him as a god... 
 
Revelation 18 is clear that Babylon is destroyed at The Height of her economic power with a booming economy --- in One Hour all her wealth is destroyed...  So, Bible Prophecy Students, are you really serious that the USA is Babylon the Great in Revelation 18??????? 
 
Another question then arises...are there two or three Babylons? The one in Jeremiah 50,51 whose destruction is somewhat systematic and another in Revelation 18, whose destruction is in one hour, or are they all one and the same but the Bible giving us different pictures of what will take place at her destruction in ONE HOUR???????
 
The current economic crisis is shaking the theology and eschatology of many...Bible prophecy is not playing out the way they wish and like...it is better to have the child like faith before The Lord and know that He is ultimately in control to fulfill Bible Prophecy in His own time...and not we, for we only prophesy in part and see in part...
 
1 Corinthians 13:9-10
(9) For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
(10) But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

1 Corinthians 13:12
(12) For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
 
Update...Emails about 'The Folly of Fleeing'...Sept 15 2008
I have been getting some emails about fleeing Babylon and my humble position after studying Bible prophecy on the subject is that you seek The Lord's will and live where He desires you to be, seeking to please Him daily, even in times of tribulation and hardship, or even death...
 
There is a false doctrine and teaching out there that Salvation of Christians in America is dependent on Rev 18:4, if they don't fulfill it then they are not some how saved...
 
I will be writing more about this subject in days to come... Otherwise don't give into the fear  and end time bible prophecy paranoia, especially in these hard times from some folks who take advantage of tough times to promote their own crafted teachings.
 
You are not the first nor the last that The Lord has rescued or will rescue out or protect during times of judgment, the Bible is full of such accounts... Fix  your eyes on Jesus Christ, The Author and Finisher of your Faith... The Greatest Escape you can make is to flee Babylon Spiritually and not be attached to her spiritual moral decadence... You can only do that by seeking God's Will, Obeying Jesus Christ and following Him any place He leads you...
 
I would like to remind all folks, especially, my American Audience that the current tough economic times is NOT THE END OF THE WORLD...and NOT THE END OF AMERICA...Don't be deceived...
 
>>The Folly Of Fleeing – The Tribulation Network NEW
Though I disagree with the Author on Revelation 18:4 being the rapture, the article sheds light and sense on Christians and their physical geographical locations in light of  Bible Prophecy...
 
>>Sarah Palin – A Symbol of Duped Evangelical America  NEW
Many have wondered why I don't write opinions on John McCain or Obama...the reason is that they are not using the Name of God in Vain for Political gain - at least not overtly... However, Sarah Palin, just like George W Bush has used Evangelical Christianity as a source of political capital... Many disagree with the Documentary on Huffington Post about the Political Christianity of Sarah Palin as being "smear campaign", however, there is nothing new about the documentary. George W Bush used the same tactics as now John McCain is using in "using" evangelical Christians in America for political gain...turning The Church of Christ into a Political Machine --- and Evangelical Pastors in America love it. American Evangelical Christians have been deceived that they can use State Power to bring about the Kingdom of Christ on Earth...and Sarah Palin is the new 'evangelical champion' in that regard...